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BloggerCon Notes 3: Blogging in Business, David Weinberger

Saturday, April 17, 2004 — 10:30 a.m. to 11:45 a.m.
David Weinberger, discussion leader

  • Blogs seem to have underpeformed in businesses that would benefit: business that have high contact witgh their customers
  • In

    the mid-90s: “Create your own homepage” software was all the rage. It

    didn’t take off, but blogs — a variation on that theme — did

  • “Maybe weblogs don’t fit very well in the business world”
  • “What is the Blogging ROI?”
  • Why aren’t businesses blogging?
  • Which types, if any?
  • What stops them?
    • Culture?
    • No business case
  • Does blogging matter to business? It does if communication is key

Discussion on internal blogs
(i.e. blogs accessible only by those within the company

  • There are legal issues: whatever appears on an internal blog could be considered property of the company
  • The content of an internal blog could be subpoenaed
  • Blogging as cheap knowledge management software: blogs let you look up solutions to problems found months ago
  • Ethan Zuckerman: Prospect Foundation taking on blogging as an internal communcations tool.
  • An interesting intersection of blogging and intellectual property: a biotech company’s lawyers:
    • Don’t want the sales/marketing department blogging internally, as the entries may contain subpoena-able competitive info
    • But they do want the scientists blogging internally so they can see their ideas and scour for what’s patentable
  • Blogging

    can be a useful way to get the message across within a company where

    email fails. Email is often perceived as “permanent and negative”,

    while the same thing said in an internal blog will not be seen in the

    same light.

Discussion on external blogs
(i.e. blogs accessible to the public)

  • What do you do when the rank and file are perceived as speaking “on behalf of company”?
  • The

    marketing/PR department of a company would probably resist blogs: it

    encroaches on their turf and surrenders their control of “the message”

  • Legal department of a company would probably also resist blogs: headaches
  • Lawyer’s

    dilemma: What if you’re a lawyer, you argue one side of a case in your

    blog and then find yourself arguing the opposite in court? Can your

    blog entry be used against you?

  • Weinberger: Would CEOs even

    blog? Don’t they still print out their email? [ Our CEO, Elliot Noss,

    has probably forgotten more about email than I will ever learn. And

    yes, he has a blog. — Joey ]

  • Useful for companies with international clientele: it’s great at overcoming time zone and real-time issues
  • It has been recommended to many companies to get a blog simply because it helps you get a better ranking on Google
  • Examples of business blogging at businessblogconsulting.com (Rick Bruner’s blog)
  • Re:

    fear of putting out the wrong message with a blog — We’ll all

    eventually be able to embarrass each other via Google. Is that going to

    happen in business?

  • Weinberger: Will Prell ever have a blog for their shampoo?
  • For small businesses that exist only online, blogs are useful
  • Ethan

    Zuckerman: Once worked with a Hollywood studio on a system that allowed

    fans to create their own fan sites. The studio insisted that all sites

    had to be vetted.

Blogs and perception of the company

  • People know a fake when they see one — fauxblogs, like Raging Cow were a bad idea
  • Blogger damage control: witness the Plaxo debacle. It got so bad that at PC Forum, their Privacy Officer had to respond

A cute phrase that came up during the discussion: “Blog-curious”

Weinberger: It doesn’t make sense for companies to just jump into blogging. They’re going to read them first.

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BloggerCon Notes 2: Visions from Users, Lisa Williams

Saturday, April 17th, 2004 — 9:00 a.m. to 10:15 a.m.

Lisa Williams, discussion leader

  • Lisa: Developers work in the dark
  • A couple of answers to Lisa’s first question: “Why do you blog?”
    • “I’m a poser, I don’t blog”
    • Dan Bricklin: Likes the feedback, does it for business reasons, express himself, connect with people
    •    

  • Some discussion about categories — someone remarked that they wish categories could have subcategories [ Blogware does this! — Joey ]
  • Comments discussion   

    • Does any one have problems with comments? Technical or people?
    • Jeff Jarvis has “rules of engagement” (which appear in the sidebar of his blog)   
    • Lisa has her own set of rules, including the Living Room Doctrine for comments (which appears in this post).
    •    

  •     

  • Losing posts in web-based blogging tools
    • “Use Control-A Control-C!”
  • Wishlist   
         

    • A service that let you republish someone else’s RSS onto your site
    • A blogging tool for note-taking
    • Different kinds of entries with different features, depending on the entry type: journal, link, opinion, response, etc.
    • Threaded comments which allowed you to respond to other comments rather than just the article [ Blogware has this! — Joey ]
    • Would like to Subscribe to a comments thread [ Blogware will have this! — Joey ]
    • Would like to be able to draw pictures
    • Text-to-speech blog: would like to be able to listen to blog while driving or working on other things
    • Better support for audioblogging
    • Better support for videoblogging
    • Better support for accessibility
    • A way to migrate a comment to the level of a post
    • Some way to automatically blog my comments made on other people’s blogs — maybe in a sideblog
    • Ability to ignore a specific commenter
    •    

  • Jeff Sandquist: Different people want to converse differently — comments / discussion group / chat etc
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BloggerCon Notes 1: National Anthem Session, Dave Winer

Saturday, April 17th, 2004 — 8:15 a.m. to 8:45 a.m.

Dave Winer, discussion leader

  • This is a user’s

    conference, not a developer’s conference. There are plenty of

    conferences catering to developers, but few address the concerns and

    needs of the users. Yes, as bloggers, we’re all users, but it’s too

    easy for us to think like developers.

  • The sessions are discussion groups — there are no “panels”

    nor “speakers”; just a discussion leader and all of you, the

    participants.

  • Everything said is on the record and for attribution. You need to explicitly state it if you want to say something off the record.
  • We’ve got lots of interesting people here, including   
  • Things to consider through the course of the day:   
         

    • Can we make money out of blogs?
    •    

    • Compare our ideas and experience
    •    

    • How are we better than other media? How are we worse?
    • At the end of the day, can we get a list of deliverable:”If we

      only had this and this…”, “Here’s what we need as an industry…”

    •    

  • The Star Spangled Banner played by Yours Truly on the Crucianelli accordion (a.k.a. “The Good One”).
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Bloggy goodness later tonight

I’ll have some bloggy goodness for this blog later on this evening, as

it’s a busy day at work. In the meantime, may I suggest to my geekier

readers that they check out today’s entries on The Farm, the blog I’m paid to write?

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John Perry Barlow @ BloggerCon

Dude! I tried acid because of you!

Seriously, here’s John Perry Barlow, leading the dicussion on the emotional life of blogs:

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Philip Greenspun @ BloggerCon

Here’s Philip leading the “Clay Shirky’s Power Law” discussion:

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Lisa Williams at her "Visions from Users" discussion at BloggerCon

Be sure to read Lisa’s blog, Learning the Lessons of Nixon.