Greg Gutfeld’s Mind-Blowingly Ignorant Remarks About Canada and its Military on FOX News - The Adventures of Accordion Guy in the 21st Century

So much could be said, but every worth is one to many…

I’d say I am pleased to hear that Canada’s armed forces will be leaving Afghanistan (for a year – yea right) although it is my belief that the reason given “our tanks are worn out” is a pitiful lie. For all the strong commentary, glib as it may be, at least they let us know and discussed it in a free for all format.

My response to the douche bag:

I’m shocked at your recent segment about Canada “taking a break” from Afghanistan. Perhaps you were unaware while the US was dicking around in Iraq looking for non-existent weapons of mass destruction and killing 100,000 civilians, Canada continued to fight in Afghanistan. We’ve lost proportionately more soldiers in Afghanistan than *any* other country. In fact, four Canadian soldiers were killed just yesterday. Did you or any of your talentless guests do any research at all before shooting your mouths off or, because it’s Fox News, you don’t bother?

Matt Mendelow
Toronto, Canada

this is america speaking….listen up. isn’t it disgusting…their corporation’s fronts are paid to be idiots.

and i think that guy might be a vulcan, or maybe he just has odd ears.

aside from that you all bore me.

This clip is sexy.

It is no wonder that Greg Gutfield has one of the worst time slots on television. I can’t tell you the outrage this ignorant, uneducated man has caused in Canada with his idiotic, puerile remarks.

Why I’m outraged I’m not sure, as in reality it’s clear this man would not last two minutes in Afghanistan.

When he says our troops need a break to do yoga and have manicures and pedicures, it mearly makes Greg Gutfield and his friends look like fools, since it is clear that Greg Gutfield, Doug Benson, and Bill Schultz were the ones sitting there wearing make-up! I don’t know ONE Canadian military man who does this, and yet Greg Gutfield is the one who sits in a chair before going on air and gets primped and preened by stylists…THIS man -Greg Gutfield- is clearly more closely aquainted with pedicures and manicures than any Canadian military personnel that I know of.

My husband has served the Canadian Military, has had friends who have died, and now works full time in Afghanistan. He speaks very highly of the American soldiers, they do an excellent job. And they also need a much needed break between tours, as I know there are US men and women who served in Iraq and were away from their families for more than a year. Canada’s Andrew Leslie is one of the few military leaders who have had the intestinal fortitude to stick up for the troops.

Our Canadian troops are being asked to do back-to-back tours and it wears on them and their families just like it would anybody…and someone like Gutfield who clearly has not experienced anything similar to what any country’s military men, women, and their families go through has no right to ridicule what they’d be doing if they got some much deserved rest. But, take into account that the US forces are bigger and receive MUCH more funding than the Canadian forces.

THANK GOODNESS most US citizens have more sense than the people on the Gutfield show, and support any troops that are out there risking their lives for their countries and the countries of others.

The Canadain military is NOT perfect (I don’t know of ANY military organization that is), and has its faults…but to go after our men and women who are DYING to help keep Afghanistan under control is a very low blow. I don’t think the US would react well to idiots from other countries putting down their military men and women.

I know children in kindergarten who have more maturity than Gutfield, who has nothing more intelligent to comment on than Andrew Leslie’s last name. (Especially when it would be even easier to ask: “What kind of a last name is Gutfield?” Does Gutfield not realize that most people his age are past this kind of schoolyard behaviour?)

I don’t even know why I’m getting riled up about a man so childish as to have a website with the slogan: “Handkerchief of hardness soaked in a sneeze of snot”, this man clearly does not have two brain cells to rub together.

Well, that was just sickening. There’s actually a Q&A thread at the A Special Thing forums for Doug Benson, who appears in that video, so I just left him a question: Did he know that this video aired the same day that four Canadian soldiers died in Afghanistan and that his ignorant, jingoistic asshattery has cost him his fanbase here?

Eat shit and die Greg Gutfield Ignorant son of a bitch…..

Why doesn’t Fox send that bunch to Afghanistan and imbed them with the Canadian army and see what they do. When I listen to them I can see how ignorant they are and don’t know a thing about Canada.

Way to go there, Greg! An especially nice commentary as 4 more Canadian soldiers are on the way home after giving their lives for a mission they believed in. Nice tribute to those soldiers families and Canada, not to mention all the efforts and blood spent over the past few years by Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan.
I’ve seen a lot of stuff on the news over the years but your comments and your friends snide, callous comments are height of ignorance.
I wonder what American soldiers who have fought side by side with Canadian soldiers think of your infantile comments.
With so called friends like you, who needs enemies.

For what it’s worth, Doug Benson responded to my complaint in that Q&A thread I mentioned earlier:

“first of all, RED EYE, while on Fox News, is a comedy show, not a news show (whether or not you think it’s funny is another matter). they did a piece on an article (which i was given before the taping) about Canada wanting to sit out of Afghanistan for a year to regroup. as the comedian on the panel (and a dumb stoner one at that), i made jokes about not knowing that Canada was in the war, and that i thought Canada was the place to go if you didn’t want to fight. i did not know that four Canadian soldiers died that day, and did not mean to make fun of their efforts or their deaths. secondly, i love Canada, and i hope that my fan base there (which is probably only a hundred strong) would understand that i was kidding and that i’d never make those jokes if i had known of the losses suffered by the country that very day.”

Note that Canadian Defence Minister Peter MacKay has just demanded an apology from Fox News. In an interview with CTV Newsnet, MacKay expressed his anger over the comments: “It’s crass, it’s insensitive, it’s in fact disgusting given the timing where Canada is just receiving back four fallen heroes.” Friday, four Canadian soldiers were killed in two separate IED blasts that injured another five soldiers. The deaths bring the total number of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan to 116.

See: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090323/military_comments_090323/20090323?hub=TopStories

When the towers went down Canada wept with you.
We went over to Afghanistan to fight and die with you.
How could you guys laugh it up and say you didn’t know Canada was fighting there.
How would you feel if some stupid Canadian comic made fun of New York???

ON A DAILY BASIS I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO MY CHILDREN TOLERENCE FOR THE IGNORANCE OF OTHERS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DO US WRONG. TODAY I CAN’T EVEN BEGIN TO TELL THEM TO IGNORE THESE REMARKS. I HOPE SOMEONE AT YOUR STATION HAS THE GOOD SENSE TO APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR MISTAKES, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WON;T HAVE THE SENSE TO EVEN KNOW YOU HAVE DONE ANYTHING WRONG

You have been heard:

Fox News host apologizes in face of Canadian outrage

The host of a Fox News program has apologized for a segment on the Canadian military that Defence Minister Peter MacKay called “disgusting” and “crass.”

http://tinyurl.com/cs3ahw

What happened to a good ol’ punch in the face!!! Man if a guy ever needed one this guy does…Though the ignorance is now more common amongst these types of shows. I can only hope that this is wake up call to any business’ out there that think they have the right people, but seriously lack judgement in there screening process…This guy will get a punch in the face…and i dont give a f&$& if some jackass lawyer decides to sue…Hes American!!!! Its expected. Thanks neighbor for furthering your country and its reputation down the loo a little bit more. This time with your best friends. Your lucky good ones forgive!

Doug Benson admits that he was not aware of our soldier’s deaths, but that does not excuse him. It just confirms what we already know. Doug and Greg, like the majority of Americans, have their heads up their backsides. When given a globe, they are unable to find most countries on the map, including Canada. Blame their poor education system or rampant lack of desire to learn any history or geography that is not inside the continental US. Has anyone watched Jay Leno’s interviews with college students…it’s embarrassing how little they know. There is nothing lighthearted, ridiculous or entertaining about the loss of four Canadian soldiers on Monday. My question to Doug and Greg: Are you implying that the value of a Canadian soldier’s life is less than that of an American who lays down his life for his country and those who do not enjoy the same democracy that we take for granted. Have either of you served in any of the US armed forces? If not, you should be ASHAMED. My sympathy to your parents, siblings, wives, children, etc. It is amazing how low people like you will stoop just to make a buck.

I echo the comments made by Bill at 3:44 PM. They say all I have to say. We have lost, on a per capita basis, more soldiers than the Americans have in Iraq. Do the math. I once supported our participation in this war because of 9/11. That was in 2001. Since then, we have fought in Afghanistan, supporting the US when nobody else will, while G.W. Bush dicked around in Iraq and left us and a handful of Americans twisting in the wind in Afghanistan. No more. We do 2011 and that’s it. I admire and respect Obama and realize what went on there is not his fault but it’s not ours either. And I don’t think there is any shame in being a country who has never fought in a war of its own making.

A three night gig here in Edmonton in April featuring this fool has been cancelled.

How do you find the words to describe how ignorant this person is? Gutfelt? I would say Gutless is closer to the truth! Sitting in his nice studio, making smart ass remarks while our young Canadian and American men and women are dying. Shame on you Gutfelt! I hope Fox promotes you to the front lines with a Canadian battalion. But knowing our young men and women, they would still feel it was their duty to protect you.

I cannot believe this idiot said what he said about Canada on national television! Number 1: He’s a nobody, I have never even heard of him before this incident; and Number 2: All of his remarks were completely wrong. If he thought for one minute that he could make those remarks on television and get away with it….what an idiot!

We should have killed all the Americans in 1812 when we had the chance. We should have never given them Florida. Then the entire planet would have been a better place. How does that one feel. Or how about the fact that thousands of your marines have committed suicide. Or that your health care system will never be in place because of your waste of cowards in the war effort. Or how about your designation as the most energy consuming pigish country in the world. Or how about how many lives your have destroyed due to your Military Democratic Policy.

The Entire planet would be better off without you. How does that feel. How dare you without us the planet would have never won WWII. Thanks for the help early in the war too you gutless freaks of waste.

Doesnt this say something about the american culture. They are obsessed that Britney Spears doesnt wear any underwear, Rihanna has a new boyfriend , etc. etc. and they dont know that the Canadians are helping fight the war in Afghanistan.
I remember when their new President, Obama, refered to the ‘president” of Canada.
They are so stupid, they dont even know they’re stupid. No wonder they’re so despised by other countries and referred to as the “Ugly Americans’.

Gutless and Boob have made every effort to downplay their abhorrent comments as being comedy and have often referred to the fact that their show isn’t a ‘news’ show – as if that excuses anything.
Firstly, I don’t believe anyone has made the assumption that there is anything newsworthy about their program! Secondly, if it is in fact ‘comedy’ where was the laughing studio audience? Nary a laugh track to be found! Who’s laughing, other than the 4 of you?
Certainly not the soldiers, families and loved ones of any countries’ army – including yours. Certainly not the families of the 4 fallen Canadian soldiers we saluted and brought home the same day you 4 shot your mouths off about our countries heroes.

Are you still laughing now?

We can only hope that these families -or any families- have not been put through any more grief because of your comedy.

I’m sure you 4 spineless americans have family. Maybe children. If they get their *sses kicked in the playground amidst the sounds of laughter, does that constitute comedy?

And Boob, I’m sure any Canadian fans you (surprisingly) may have had will not be standing by you.

I think I speak for every Canadian and invite any of you to try out your brand of comedy ‘up here’. We’ll try to fit in your show in between our mani’s and pedi’s.

…F*ckin J*ck*sses…

Dear Mr. Gutfeld;

As a Canadian, I find your lame duck apology for your despicable comments on Canada’s military to be totally inadequate. Perhaps you and your ignorant, redneck audience would find the following to be just as humourous should you care to share it with them, which I don’t imagine you will.

Your comments and those of your “commentators” were not only an insult to the men and women of the Canadian armed forces but also demonstrate once again the appalling arrogance and ignorance of Americans such as yourself. Let’s take a quick look at American military prowess as seen from a non-American standpoint.

Invade Canada because they have no army? You tried that back in 1812 and got your American butts kicked. The only significant battle that US forces won in that war was the Battle of New Orleans which was actually fought several weeks after a peace treaty had been signed in Europe. And even in this battle, your Old Hickory (was that a reference to his head) depended on the support of a French pirate and his men who betrayed the British. How’s that for an amusing play on Andy’s nickname?

Actually, when it comes to winning wars on your own, the only one you can lay claim to is your Civil War, which Americans of one side or the other pretty well had to win, didn’t they? In the Revolutionary War you had the French to help you. In the Spanish American War, you had the local indigenous populations to help you. Are you finding this amusing?

You largely took a pass on World War One until it was three quarters over and then sent only a token force most of whom saw no action before the spring of 1918. Canada, by contrast put 10% of its entire population in uniform and these men were invariably given the most difficult objectives which they always achieved, unfortunately with the loss of a full 10% of its force – that’s killed, not just wounded. And who were your great heroes? Eddie Rickenbacher who managed to shoot down a total of 26 enemy aircraft in about the same amount of time that the Canadian ace, Billy Bishop, shot down 72. Where did your guys learn to fly? Then there was that hillbilly hick from Bear Creek Hollow, Tennessee named Alvin York. What the hell kind of name is that for a soldier? Alvin’s a bloody chipmunk’s name! Am I being funny yet?

Of course in World War Two you Americans jumped in when it had only been going on for two and a quarter years, but you made up for it by taking all the credit. Again, it was mainly the Canadian forces who took the brunt and who were given the toughest assignments in areas like the Italian campaign and at Normandy. Why do we never hear anything from Hollywood about what the Canadians achieved at Juno Beach, generally regarded by most historians, other than Americans, as a tougher objective than Utah or even Omaha Beaches? Why don’t you American know that the Canadian Division was held back from entering Rome on June 6, 1944 so that Georgie Patton’s ego could be satisfied, his ego and propensity for slapping Privates being his two most outstanding leadership qualities. Are you bozos laughing now? “But we Americans won the War in the Pacific,” I hear you saying. Yes, after the Australians and Chindits showed you how to defeat the Japanese at jungle warfare.

Unfortunately, those lessons in jungle warfare seemed to have been forgotten by the time you got to Vietnam where about the only things American troops did were drugs and young Vietnamese women. Isn’t this just hilarious?

And now you’re going to send an additional 17,000 troops to Afghanistan where, given your extremely limited success in Iraq (another war you don’t seem to be capable of winning), it’s just possible that the Canadian and other lesser UN forces there may feel they would be better off without. You Americans are just a laugh a minute! No wonder the rest of the world loves you so much!

As I suggested at the outset, I doubt if this will be shared with your audience (which, by the way, doesn’t and never will include me), but if you do, I’m sure you will all take it in the humorous vein in which it is intended. Excuse me now while I extract my tongue from my cheek.

copied from Peter Salter
A justifiably proud Canadian

Yep,fox “news” the junk food of broadcasting

I take my hat off to Mr. Peter Salter for his presentation. He could also have thrown in an additional fact about Andrew Jackson and the Battle of New Orleans: how many Americans know that the Battle of New Orleans was won primarily through the prowess of black slaves who Andrew Jackson enlisted and armed on his way down the Mississsippi to New Orleans, luring them to volunteer with the promise that they would be granted their freedom if the defense was successful? After the battle was won (with almost no white casualties on the American side) Jackson immediately employed local police and militias and the white foremen of these slaves who had also been impressed, to disarm them through ruse, then rounded them up in chains and returned them to their owners and a life of slavery? You can read about it in sordid detail in a book called Famous Battles edited by John Bettenbender and George Fleming (published, incidentally, in New York in 1970).
We also know that the U.S. to this day has a giant inferiority complex due to the fact that it was the Russians who contributed majorly to defeating the Nazis in WW2. Maybe this is what motivates Greg Gutless and his ilk to strut around talking down to the rest of the world. Of course Mr. Gutless and his crew of right-wing giggling jerks wouldn’t last a minute under the kinds of circumstances that Canada’s soldiers have done us proud throughout our history.

just saw this today really disgusted fox is now off the list anything you do will be boycotted by me and all i can effect

Greg,
I like your new show the 5. I am an Ex Airborne Regt Guy (Canadian). I know what war is all about. Read this attached letter by an American soldier. Then maybe you will understand. We wised up along time ago – you guys (exept this one) haven’t figured it out yet.
Maybe the four of you that joked about us on Red Eye can show me a little American courage and meet me at the border. We will see who would walk away, me or you 4 sissies. Ahh-it would be me. You blowhards think your country is the best country in the world – that’s not hard for you to imagine if you don’t know sh*t about any other country – especially the one to the North – (face Mexico – turn around 180 Degrees) thats North. Have the guts to air this mans letter and start giving your soldiers a break – they need it.

Too many wars, too few U.S. soldiers

By Robert H. Scales, Published: March 13

Robert H. Scales, a retired U.S. Army major general and former commandant of the Army War College, is president of the consulting firm Colgen.

I guess I knew it would eventually come down to this: Blame the Army’s institutions in some way for the horrific and senseless slaughter of 16 innocent Afghan civilians in Kandahar, allegedly by a U.S. infantry non-commissioned officer (NCO). In their search for a villain, the media seems to be focusing now on Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state, where the accused soldier was stationed before his fourth deployment to a combat zone.

Before we get too involved in attacking institutions, perhaps it might be right and proper to suggest that the underlying issue here is not about failure of our Army. Perhaps the issue might be that no institutional effort can make up for trying over the past 10 years to fight too many wars with too few soldiers?

The accused NCO is an infantryman. Two weeks ago I talked with infantry soldiers at Fort Benning, Ga., and I couldn’t help contrasting them with those of my generation of Vietnam veterans. What caught my attention were the soldiers’ amazing stories of patient, selfless, introversive commitment. First I took to heart the enormous disparity in stressful, extreme experiences between the infantry and other branches and services that have come back from Iraq and Afghanistan. The senior NCOs I spoke to all had at least three, and in some cases five, tours, virtually all in close combat units. Contrast this with returning Vietnam NCOs and junior officers, most of whom in that era had only one tour in Vietnam.

Of course infantry combat in Vietnam was perhaps more intense, but close fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan was more pervasive and lasting, thus more likely to cause personal trauma in my mind. The infantrymen I spoke to at Fort Benning were different from those in my generation. They were more emotionally exhausted and drained, less spontaneous and humorless. My generation of professionals spent a great deal of time on Friday nights at the officer’s club, talking over a beer about the Catch-22 nature of Vietnam and many of the stupid and hilarious experiences we endured. None of this at Benning today. No clubs, no public displays of hilarity and certainly no beer. These guys seemed to view their time in combat as endless and repetitive. My sense is that their collective, intimate exposure to the horrors of close combat was far more debilitating than what we experienced.

This of course in no way justifies what happened in Kandahar. But I think if someone wants to place blame, it should be on a succession of national leaders who fail to recognize that combat units, particularly infantry, just wear out. Lord Moran concluded in his classic about combat stress in World War I, “Anatomy of Courage,” that the reservoir of courage begins to empty after the first shot is fired. The horrors of intimate killing, along with other factors such as fatigue, thirst, hunger, isolation, fear of the unknown and the sight of dead and maimed comrades, all start a process of moral atrophy that cannot be reversed. Lord Moran rightfully concludes that nothing sort of permanent withdrawal from the line will bring soldiers back to normalcy.

The media is trying to make some association between the terrible crime of this sergeant and the Army’s inability to treat post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury. Perhaps the Army could have done more. But I think Lord Moran had it more right; the real institutional culprit is the decade-long exploitation and cynical overuse of one of our most precious and irreplaceable national assets: our close combat soldiers and Marines.

If someone just after 9/11 would have told me that a very small Army and Marine Corps would fight a 10-year-long set of close combat engagements in two wars and still remain intact, I would have called them crazy. Well, we’ve done just that, haven’t we? But at what cost to the few who have borne an enormously disproportionate share of emotional stress?

30 replies on “Greg Gutfeld’s Mind-Blowingly Ignorant Remarks About Canada and its Military on FOX News”

Leave a Reply